Taylor Swift Talks Travis Kelce's Proposal, Addresses Selena Gomez, Ed Sheeran & Super Bowl Rumors

We love you too much!

We love you too much!

That was...

The big art.

I know that you have to. We have to let her talk.

Sorry, we have to.

Oh, it was so nice. That was incredible. Wow.

That's the loudest intro in the history of The Tonight Show.

You guys are the best.

They're the best crowd. Yeah, they're the best.

I feel like I'm back at the Aeros tour.

Yeah, I'm excited.

Let's talk about Life of a Showgirl is out now.

It went to number one. It is the biggest streaming day for any album released this year across all platforms, including Amazon, Apple, Spotify.

Every platform, number one. Congratulations.

That's all you guys.

How does it feel to have this out in the world?

I mean, it's... Yes.

I'm so excited about, like...

This was sort of a surprise and a secret that I had been carrying around for a year, and I was so excited.

It's like when you're like, I got a really great Christmas present from my brother.

And I like... But you have it for a year.

Christmas tomorrow? Yeah, yeah.

And so it's really exciting that, you know, they have opened the present, and they are playing with the toy.

Yeah, yeah.

And it's fantastic.

Like, this has just been, like...

I think the most well-matched era in terms of where my life was when I wrote it and then where I am now when it's out in the world.

I feel exactly the same way as I did when I wrote and recorded these songs.

It's like...

Oh, because sometimes you put out an album.

Oh, sometimes you write, like, the Torture Poets Department.

Like, the name didn't lie.

I was like... I wrote that song, and I was just, like, miserable.

Yeah.

And then when I put it out, I was like, I'm so happy now.

So I just, like...

Like, I can't.

Release Week meant just, like, putting my phone in a drawer, you know?

Yeah.

Like, I was just like...

You know, this feels so special because, like, with my albums, I love to kind of, you know,

showcase sort of, like, aspects of my personality that are in the extreme, right?

Like, Torture Poets Department, my last album, was really highlighting the facets of me that are, like, a writer that's, like, earnest and stoic and raw and sort of, like, the sprawling part of it where the part of me that wants to just be like, I'm just gonna write everything and give you everything I wrote.

Raw.

Right? Raw and, like, pain and just excruciating detail.

And then there's this, like, that was the character of the poet, and this I wanted to be the character of the showgirl, which is, like, other aspects of a person's personality where you're, like, you're, like, funny and feisty and, like, having a blast and flirty and sort of tongue-in-cheek and a little scandalous and, like, friendly.

Yes! Yes!

We're feeling all of it.

By the way, I have to say, because I'm getting blinded, congratulations on your engagement.

Oh, thanks.

Yeah, no big deal.

Thanks. Yeah, it's...

Can I see?

Yeah, of course.

Oh, my Lord. Can we look just at the camera?

It's crazy.

Taylor, that is insanity.

Well, he put a lot of work into that one.

He did. He did, and he had it for a really long time before he gave it to me, too.

He did?

Yeah, so he had it, like, he custom did this and designed it with this amazing jeweler who he made it with.

It's gorgeous. Even the sides are beautiful.

I know. I know. I look at it constantly.

Like, it's not... It doesn't feel in any way normal for me.

I'm just sort of like, oh, man!

Whoa! But it's, like, it's more than that.

It's, like, I just, like...

He's just my favorite person I've ever met.

No offense to everyone else.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But the fact that this is the person that I get to hang out with every day forever is just, like...

That's the whole thing of it.

You look at that, and you're like, I get to hang out with him forever, and this represents that.

That's the win, yeah.

Well, I know that you did his podcast, New Heights, which, by the way, I have done, and since I've done his podcast, they've won every game since I've done it.

Yeah, you know what?

Don't think I didn't notice that.

Thank you.

Yeah, and so I...

I don't want to thank you, and I don't want any credit.

Let's just act like it didn't happen.

Yeah, let's not jinx anything.

Let's sort of...

But...

But it did happen, so...

It did happen.

We have to acknowledge certain superstitious, you know, things that cause a streak of winning.

Yes, and my...

It's game day. My head is very much there.

Yes, you are.

So thank you for acknowledging that.

No, no, I was going to bring out the podcast only because you did the podcast to announce and reveal your album title.

Yes.

And then after that podcast...

I think it was.

I think I'm right about this.

It might be another rumor about you.

But, um...

He went and you got engaged right after the podcast.

Yes. So basically, um, I think for Travis, the podcast was just sort of like a distraction sort of ruse to keep me not looking out the windows of the house.

It was all happening.

Was the backyard normal when you got there?

Well, I was like, I don't...

Every time he does the podcast, it's not like he, like, blacks out all the windows.

It's like...

It's like fully, like, just blackout drapes on every single window of the whole house.

Yeah, you're like, honey, this is real secretive.

He is so serious about this, and I really appreciate that.

Um, but then, um, afterward, I kind of realized, like, he's...

He's walking around sort of nervous about the podcast.

He's like, my heart is racing. I just really want...

I know how much this means to you.

Like, really want this to be what you hoped it would be.

Because we've been talking about doing the podcast and announcing the album.

Yeah.

And he's like, just my heart's racing.

I've never seen this dude nervous. Ever.

Of course he's not nervous about the podcast.

He's like, professionally not a nervous person.

He's like, I wonder what questions I'm going to ask you.

I know one. I know one.

I know one question that I'm going to ask.

I know the big one.

But I can't get to that yet.

Yeah, I was like...

And so he was like, do you want to go and just walk around the backyard and have a glass of wine?

I'm like, I'm always going to want to do that.

That's good. Always bad.

And then I realized exactly why all of the windows were curtained and why he was nervous.

Yeah, look at this right here.

It was the best possible case scenario.

Look at that. Look at this.

That's what he was turning the backyard into.

Like a secret garden oasis.

Beautiful.

You've had a giant, giant year.

A lot of things to celebrate.

You have the number one album.

You got engaged.

You also finally got the masters.

You control all of your masters.

The hard work. That's a lot of...

The roots know.

Yeah.

Amir knows.

We're all just out here in this crazy, insane music industry.

And the fact that this happened still feels absolutely outlandish to me.

Because I kind of had made peace with the fact that I was going to rerecord my music.

I was going to try to replicate these songs as accurately and exactly as possible.

And that was just what I was going to do.

Because nobody had ever given me the opportunity to bid on my work before.

So I was used to feeling whenever I would see one of my music videos that I'm really proud of from those first six albums.

Or when I would see, like, an album cover of mine.

Or hear one of the older songs.

I'd get so sad.

And I had to sort of create this protective layer of, like, not really letting them in.

Like, not really, like, oh, there's one of my music videos.

Don't really look at it.

Don't get sad.

Don't let it ruin your day.

Um...

Because you don't own it.

Someone else is getting...

You never will.

And that's...

And you just have to make peace with that.

So it's actually...

I've had to reroute my entire absorption system of my own work to be just stoked whenever I see any of it.

And it is the best feeling in the world.

Thank you guys for caring about this at all.

It's like, listen to it all.

Yes.

Love it all.

And every time you hear it, you go, I remember where I was when I recorded it.

I remember where I wrote it.

Yes.

And now you get to go back down memory lane.

But then you also...

That you rerecorded it was also historic and cool.

That was really fun.

I had a blast.

That was awesome.

We had a time.

It was awesome what you did.

It really was fun.

It was great.

And it was like...

I know that these are not conversations that have typically been had outside of, you know, behind closed doors, conference room, contract negotiations, sort of inside the music industry type spaces.

And the fact that when I did say to the fans, like, this is something I care about.

I know you don't have to care about this.

It may not be something that you have really, like, absorbed yourselves in or like...

But the fact that the fans cared, it means the world to me.

I know that it was a new topic of conversation to share publicly.

Every artist doesn't have to care about owning their music.

But I just wanted them to, like, know that this is a thing.

And if you do care about it, negotiate to have it.

You deserve it.

And you're already doing it.

You're inspiring...

Hundreds of thousands of artists to do that.

Yeah.

And it's really cool that you did that and that you were honest and led us in kind of a little peek behind the curtain of what the business is.

We don't...

Like, a huge peek behind the curtain.

I was like...

Like, just all the...

All the monsters came out.

Like, yeah.

I thought we could do something kind of fun here.

Because you're Taylor Swift and you make a lot of headlines.

There's a lot written about you on the Internet every day.

Some of it is very hard to tell what's true.

And I thought we could have a little fun with this.

All right.

Okay, so what I'm going to do is...

Oh, my God.

No.

I'm going to read some rumors that I heard about Taylor Swift.

Wait, so what is this for?

It's just because it looks cool.

What is it?

Do you know what this does and when I am supposed to...

You're supposed to press it...

Wait, no, no.

Not yet.

But I think you press it when we're all done.

I'll go back through other rumor and you press it if that one is true.

So you're going to say things that are true and false and you're going to...

Are you...

Is this like two truths and a lie where you guess?

Yes.

Oh, I can do that.

Yeah.

So you...

Oh, I like that.

We're basically playing two truths and a lie.

One of these, I know, I heard that...

Yes.

Yes.

One of these is true.

One of these things are true, but everything else is false.

That's correct.

All right, here we go.

Taylor Swift, you turned down the Super Bowl halftime show because the NFL wouldn't allow you to own your performance footage.

Okay.

We're going to go through this five rumors.

Interesting.

Rumor two.

Your close friend, Ed Sheeran, learned about your engagement like everyone else did on Instagram.

That would be great if that's true.

Rumor three.

In your speech at Selena Gomez's wedding, you joked that Selena beat you to the altar.

That's funny.

And I know you.

You're funny.

I could see that happening.

Rumor four.

You've been spotted walking a mystery dog in Florida.

This is true.

This is on the Internet.

You are walking a dog that's not your dog.

And it's a mystery dog.

And by the way, I think that might be the true one.

But who knows?

Travis Kelsey can be heard harmonizing on Opalite.

All right.

I said five rumors about you.

One of them is true.

And you are guessing now which one you think is the true one.

And what happens if that is not true?

If I'm correct, how about this?

Do I get to, like, throw a marker or something?

No, no, no.

Nothing happens.

How about this?

If it's true, then you hit the buzzer.

Okay.

And I just sit here.

Well, hopefully, I'll get the right one.

What if I'm correct?

Okay, yeah, yeah.

You could get it first.

Or we could run through the rumors.

Let's do that.

Then we could maybe run through the rumors and see why the rumors.

This is the most incredible.

What are the rules of this game?

You've never played Two Truths and a Lie, so you basically guess.

But I don't know if there are two truths.

I think there's one truth.

Oh, yeah, no, because there's one truth and a bunch of falses.

This is called Four Lies and a Truth.

Okay, so I should have this.

It's false.

Okay.

Or you hit that if it's false.

There's more of a chance that it's going to be false if there's one truth in there than there's more.

And I love a buzzer.

Okay.

You can take this home with you.

All right.

And if it's true, I'm sorry I've taken this over.

No, I love this.

But if it's true, I could say, that's true.

All right.

All right.

The name of this game is called That's True.

Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, or you could call it That's So True, which is my favorite Gracie Abrams song, and then you could play it with other people.

Okay.

Okay.

That's so true.

Okay, cool, cool, cool.

All right.

I'm going to say the rumor that I think is true.

Super Bowl, I don't think that you would about footage or something.

That was too...

You don't care about that.

So you...

Wait, hold on.

I'm going to say my truth.

I think my truth, Ed Sheeran is funny.

Wait, wait, wait.

But I think you're closer to him.

When do I get to touch this?

Hold on.

Yeah, I didn't guess when I say this is the truth.

You're working through this in your inner monologue that we're hearing a little bit of.

Correct.

Okay.

I love this.

I'm working my inner monologue out loud in front of everybody.

Yeah, yeah, it's like, you know.

It's not mystery, dog.

Your process is your process.

It's not mystery, dog.

Travis can be heard harmonizing.

I don't think he would want to do that.

I think he would want you to have your moment to shine.

The Selena Gomez one, I feel like that's funny.

And I feel like you say, hey, you beat me to the altar.

I'm going to say Selena Gomez is true, that you were at Selena Gomez's wedding, and you joked, hey, you beat me to the altar.

It's false.

What is the rules?

Wait, what are the rules of the game?

The game is not it's false.

The game is, it is, what is the game called?

I don't know.

Sorry, that's false?

Yeah.

She never said that.

Well, so I got to see her be the most elegant, gorgeous, not only bride, but just vision that I've ever seen in my life.

I've never seen anything so beautiful as her on her wedding day.

I love her.

And she deserves all of this happiness.

Benny, he is him.

The best.

He is so funny.

He's the best.

He's the best.

So I did make a speech, but I actually made a point not to mention anything about my engagement.

Nobody wants you to be like, hey, I know this is your wedding day, but, like, what are you?

You know, like, I was like, don't mention it.

Yeah, it's not about you.

Like, maybe turn it around.

Like, do you know what I mean?

Yeah, this is her day.

I did do some light teasing about the way that we used to dress in 2008, the year that we met.

Because we met when we were teenagers in 2008.

It was quite a year.

Let me tell you, it was the year of deep, deep venex.

Was it deep?

I just go into, like, the Gilded Age.

Deep, deep.

I love the Gilded Age.

Me, too. The Gilded Age.

Don't even get me started.

Carrie Kane's character.

It was the year of aggressively colorful skinny jeans.

Everyone was walking around saying things were amazeballs.

Mrs. Astor hated it.

Oh, my God, that nailed it right there.

So, basically, Selena used to, like, her favorite outfit back then was, like, a very long tank top, skinny jeans.

They know it.

But, like, a tiny little vest.

Like a tiny, the smallest vest.

And chucks.

And that was her, like, uniform of that year.

And mine was that I just always looked like I was, like, late for the cowboy-themed junior prom.

And so I talked a little bit about 2008.

I talked about, you know, how happy I am for her and how just beautiful it's been to get to be a part of her life.

But I did not make it about me.

Okay, good.

All right.

Then I'm going to have my second guess here.

And I'm gonna say I think it'd be funny if Ed Sheeran learned about your engagement on Instagram.

That's so true.

Perfect explanation.

Oh, no!

I have...

He doesn't...

Did he write a whole album about an old phone that he had or something?

But he doesn't have one that works.

Yes, true. That is true.

So he doesn't have a phone.

And this is, like, one thing I love about him.

It's very eccentric.

Love it.

But when I'm going through being like, hey, like, you know, hey, who should we call?

All my peeps.

Who should we FaceTime?

I'm going through my texts and being like, who have I texted within the last, like, month of my life?

And he just wasn't there.

Because you have to, like, you have to, like...

How do you get a hold of him? The bat signal?

You have to e-mail him.

And then if you want to set up a FaceTime, he has to find an iPad.

They have to give it to him like he's a child that they give the iPad to.

Yes, and he watches the episode of Bluey and then...

This is one of my absolute favorite people on the planet.

And I was like...

Oh, that's why I didn't guess that.

And then when the news came out, I was like, oh, my God, we forgot to call Ed!

Oh, no!

That's my favorite.

Yeah, he's like family.

Of course!

Like, I love him, but he doesn't own a phone.

So that is the true one.

So you didn't turn down the Super Bowl because of performance footage?

No.

Okay.

No, no. Well, here's the thing.

Like, Jay-Z has always been very good to me.

Yes.

Our teams are really close.

Like, they sometimes will call and say, how does she feel about this world?

Yeah.

And that's not like an official offer or like a conference room conversation.

It's just a feeling out.

Our teams are really close.

How does she feel about it in general?

And we've been...

We're always able to, like, tell him the truth, which is that, like, I am in love with a guy who does that sport on that actual field.

Like, that is violent chess.

That is gladiators without swords.

That is dangerous.

I am...

The whole season, I am locked in on what that man is doing on the field.

Can you imagine if, like, he's out there every single week, like, putting his life on the line, doing this very dangerous, very high-pressure, high-intensity sport, and I'm like, I wonder what my choreo should be.

Like, oh, my gosh, honey, let me have one thing!

Let me have one thing.

I think we should do two verses of Shake It Off into Blank Space, into...

Girl Summer would be great.

Like, it's just like this is...

And this is nothing to do with Travis.

He would love for me to do it.

I'm just too locked in.

Good.

Like, yeah.

All right. Love hearing that.

All right. And then, uh...

Travis is not harmonizing on Opelight.

He's not.

No.

And you've not been spotted walking a mystery dog in Florida.

That was an odd one.

I have never walked a dog in Florida, or maybe ever.

But the Internet is saying that you have.

That's why I wrote it down.

I know. I didn't do that, though.

It's not true. All right, there you go.

They should be able to run free.

Let them free. Let them loose, right?

They come back. Don't they come back?

That's the cool thing about dogs.

All right.

You just call them and they just come back.

They come back to you.

That's not true at all.

And I'm going to call it.

It's like if you love your dog, let him free.

That's not true at all.

Let it roam.

If it loves you, too, it will come back to you.

All right. We're going to take a commercial break.

In the meantime, I'm going to call Ed Sheeran and say hi to him.

Check in.

Guys, thank you for doing that.

More with Taylor Swift when we come back.

All right, man.

All right.