Historical Justification for the War in Ukraine
This section details Putin's extensive historical narrative to justify Russia's actions in Ukraine, tracing back to the 9th century.
- Founding of the Russian State: Putin begins by recounting the invitation of Rurik from Scandinavia in 862 to Novgorod, marking the traditional founding of the Russian state.
- Kievan Rus' and Christianization: He describes how Prince Oleg expanded the state to include Kyiv in 882 and the significance of Prince Vladimir's baptism of Russia in 988, which established Orthodoxy as the state religion and unified the state.
- Fragmentation and Mongol Yoke: Putin explains how succession issues led to fragmentation, making Rus' vulnerable to the Mongol invasion, with southern lands falling under Tatar control while northern cities maintained some sovereignty.
- Rise of Moscow and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania: He notes the emergence of a unified Russian state centered in Moscow, while the southern Russian lands, including Kyiv, gravitated towards the Grand Duchy of Lithuania.
- Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and "Ukrainization": Putin asserts that the union of Lithuania and Poland led to the "Polonization" of these lands, where the term "Ukrainian" was allegedly used to denote people living on the periphery or serving in border patrols, rather than an ethnic group. He claims this period involved harsh treatment and suppression of identity.
- Bogdan Khmelnytsky and Reunification with Moscow: He highlights the appeals of Bogdan Khmelnytsky to Warsaw for rights and then to Moscow for protection, leading to the 1654 reunification of part of the lands with the Moscow Kingdom, followed by a protracted war with Poland.
- Catherine the Great and Austrian Influence: Putin states that Catherine the Great reclaimed all historical Russian lands, and that before WWI, the Austrian General Staff promoted "Ukrainianization" to counter Russian influence.
- Bolsheviks and Soviet Ukraine: He discusses the Bolsheviks' establishment of Soviet Ukraine after the 1917 revolution, noting Lenin's insistence on the republics' right to withdraw from the USSR and the transfer of lands with no historical connection to Ukraine.
- Stalin's Role and Post-WWII Territorial Changes: Putin attributes the shaping of Ukraine as an "artificial state" to Stalin's will and mentions that after WWII, Ukraine received lands from Poland, Hungary, and Romania.
Perceived Threats from the West and NATO
This section focuses on Putin's explanation for Russia's feeling of threat from NATO expansion and Western policies.
- US-NATO Threat and "Surprise Attack" Claim: Putin clarifies his previous statement, explaining it wasn't a direct US strike but rather a broader perceived threat from NATO's eastward expansion and military buildup near Russia's borders.
- Broken Promises on NATO Expansion: He claims that promises were made in 1990 that NATO would not expand eastward, but this was allegedly violated through five waves of expansion.
- US Actions in Yugoslavia as a Precedent: Putin cites the US bombing of Belgrade in violation of international law as a turning point, demonstrating a disregard for international law and UN Charter.
- US Support for Separatism/Terrorism in the Caucasus: He alleges that the US provided political, informational, financial, and even military support to terrorist groups in the North Caucasus, providing proof to a former US President.
- US Missile Defense System: Putin expresses concern over the US missile defense system, proposing a joint Russia-US-Europe missile defense system, but claims the proposal was rejected, forcing Russia to develop its own advanced strike systems.
- The 2008 Bucharest Summit and NATO Doors for Ukraine/Georgia: He criticizes the declaration that NATO doors were open to Ukraine and Georgia, calling it "kindergarten" and highlighting the US pressure on other NATO members to agree.
- Militarization of Ukraine and NATO Bases: Putin asserts that NATO military structures began creating bases in Ukraine under the guise of training, alongside the declaration of Russians as a "non-titular nationality" and laws limiting their rights.
- Disregard for Minsk Agreements: He states that the current Ukrainian leadership declared they would not implement the Minsk agreements, which were meant to peacefully resolve the conflict in Donbas.
- Former German and French Leaders' Admissions: Putin references statements from former leaders of Germany and France admitting they never intended to implement the Minsk agreements, suggesting they "led Russia by the nose."
- "Denazification" as a Goal: Putin defines "denazification" as prohibiting neo-Nazi movements and states that this issue was discussed during negotiations. He argues that these movements, with historical ties to exterminating populations, have been elevated to national heroes in Ukraine, which is unacceptable.
- The Canadian Parliament Incident: He recounts the incident where a Ukrainian man who served in SS troops was applauded in the Canadian Parliament, highlighting it as evidence of the pervasive nature of Nazism in Ukraine.
- Provocation of US Senator Chuck Schumer: Putin dismisses a US senator's statement about US soldiers fighting in Ukraine as a "cheap provocation," emphasizing that mercenaries from Poland, the US, and Georgia are already involved.
The Role of the United States and Western Policies
This section delves into Putin's critical perspective on US foreign policy and its impact on global relations.
- US as a "Satellite State" Controller: Putin describes Ukraine as a "satellite state" of the US, implying that Washington dictates Ukraine's decisions, including its refusal to negotiate.
- "Tricked Us" Narrative: He accuses the US of tricking Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union, despite Russia's expectation of cooperation and association.
- Control of World Media: Putin believes the US controls global media, making it difficult for Russia to win propaganda wars.
- US Dollar as a Tool of Foreign Policy: He views the US's use of the dollar as a tool for foreign policy struggle as a grave mistake that undermines its own power.
- US Allies Downsizing Dollar Reserves: He notes that even US allies are reducing their dollar reserves due to concerns about US policies.
- Impact of Sanctions on Russia: Putin highlights how sanctions restricted Russian transactions in US dollars, forcing a shift to rubles and yuan, which he believes damages the US economy.
- US Pressure on NATO Members: He observes that US leadership exerts pressure on NATO members, who obediently vote even if they disagree.
- US Miscalculation in Supporting the 2014 Coup: Putin calls the US support for the 2014 coup in Ukraine a "colossal mistake" that led to bloodshed, the loss of Crimea, and the war in Donbas.
- US Experts Acknowledging Global Shifts: He points to US experts who acknowledge the changing global power dynamics and the US's declining position.
- US Political Establishment's Mindset of Domination: Putin believes that if the US political establishment remains driven by a desire for domination at any cost, the situation will worsen.
- US Support for Ukraine: He criticizes the extensive financial and military support provided to Ukraine, suggesting it prolongs the conflict and is a waste of US resources.
- US Control Over Ukraine's Decision-Making: Putin reiterates that Ukraine's decisions, including its refusal to negotiate, are made under US instruction.
The Ukraine Conflict and Negotiations
This section addresses the origins of the conflict, the failed peace talks, and the conditions for resolution.
- Coup in Ukraine as the Trigger: Putin identifies the 2014 coup in Ukraine as the initial provocation that led to the conflict.
- European Guarantees Ignored: He criticizes Germany, Poland, and France for acting as guarantors of an agreement between Yanukovych and the opposition, only to disregard it after the coup.
- "Bloody Developments on Maidan": Putin states that Russia would not have intervened if not for the violent events of the Maidan, emphasizing the subsequent threat to Crimea and the war in Donbas.
- Ukrainian Declaration Against Minsk Agreements: He highlights Ukraine's declaration that it would not implement the Minsk agreements, which were designed for a peaceful settlement in Donbas.
- Former British Prime Minister Johnson's Influence: Putin claims that former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson persuaded Ukraine to reject a peace settlement in Istanbul, promising continued support for fighting Russia.
- Ukraine's Decree Prohibiting Negotiations: He notes that the Ukrainian president issued a decree forbidding negotiations with Russia, making dialogue impossible unless rescinded.
- US Instruction to Ukraine: Putin believes that Ukraine's refusal to negotiate is dictated by Washington.
- Mistake of the West: He asserts that the West made a mistake by believing Russia could be defeated on the battlefield and that they should now find a way to reverse the situation.
- Readiness for Dialogue: Putin repeatedly states that Russia is ready for negotiations and has never refused them.
- Need for Dignified Resolution: He suggests that if Western powers realize defeating Russia is impossible, they should consider how to de-escalate with dignity, as there are options.
Russian Identity and Traditional Values
This part of the interview focuses on Putin's views on Russian culture, religion, and national identity.
- Orthodoxy as Central to Russian Identity: Putin emphasizes the deep historical roots of Orthodoxy in Russia, stemming from Prince Vladimir's baptism in 988.
- Loyalty to Traditional Religions: He highlights Russia's historical loyalty to other traditional religions like Islam, Buddhism, and Judaism within its borders, viewing this as a source of strength.
- Similar Core Values Across Religions: Putin believes that the main postulates and values in Russia's traditional religions are very similar, forming the basis of social cohesion.
- Russia as a "Motherland": He emphasizes that people professing different religions in Russia consider it their motherland, forming a "big family."
- Patriotism and National Security: Putin links the concept of motherland and family to ensuring a normal future for children and the country, explaining the strong patriotic sentiment in Russia.
- Christianity and Self-Defense: When asked about reconciling Christianity with warfare, Putin states that it's about protecting oneself, family, and homeland, not initiating aggression.
- Dostoevsky and the "Russian Soul": He contrasts Western pragmatism with the Russian focus on eternal and moral values, referencing Dostoevsky's exploration of the "Russian soul."
- "Civil War" Element in Ukraine: Putin views the conflict in Ukraine as partly a civil war, noting that Ukrainian soldiers still identify as Russian, indicating a persistent unity despite hostilities.
- Dismantling of Ukrainian Orthodox Church: He sees the dismantling of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church as an attempt to separate people from their spiritual and cultural connections to Russia.
Global Order and Future Threats
This section discusses the changing global landscape, the rise of new powers, and future technological challenges.
- Multipolar World and Alliance Blocks: Putin acknowledges the shift towards a multipolar world but avoids defining specific alliance blocks, advocating for a single global community with shared security.
- BRICS Growth and Shift in Global Economy: He points to the rapid growth of BRICS nations and their increasing share in the global economy, surpassing the G7, as an inevitable trend.
- Challenges to US Hegemony: Putin suggests that the US's reliance on force, sanctions, and pressure is counterproductive and stems from a refusal to acknowledge changing global realities.
- US Dollar's Diminishing Role: He predicts a decline in the US dollar's dominance as a reserve currency due to its use as a political weapon and allies' efforts to diversify reserves.
- Rise of China and BRICS Cooperation: Putin emphasizes the growing cooperation with China and within BRICS, highlighting their economic complementarity and China's non-aggressive foreign policy philosophy.
- Threats from AI and Genetic Engineering: He identifies artificial intelligence and genetic research as potential existential threats, suggesting the need for international agreements to regulate these fields.
- Elon Musk and Brain-Computer Interfaces: Putin expresses a cautious view on Elon Musk's work with brain implants, advocating for dialogue and regulation.
- Necessity of International Agreements: He draws a parallel to nuclear weapons, suggesting that existential threats from AI and genetics will eventually necessitate international cooperation and regulation.
The Case of Evan Gershkovich
This part of the interview addresses the imprisonment of Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovits.
- Willingness for Reciprocal Exchange: Putin indicates a willingness to release Gershkovits if partners take reciprocal steps, primarily through special services.
- Espionage Charges: He defends the espionage charges against Gershkovits, stating he was caught "red-handed" receiving classified information covertly.
- Distinction from a "Super Spy": While acknowledging Gershkovits might not be a "super spy," Putin insists that the act of obtaining classified information covertly constitutes espionage under Russian law.
- Dialogue Between Special Services: He confirms ongoing communication between special services regarding the issue and expresses belief in reaching an agreement.
- Avoiding Publicizing the Issue: Putin suggests that making such cases public can complicate their resolution.
- "Geopolitical Mistake" by the West: He implies that the US and its allies have made mistakes in their approach to Russia, hindering progress on issues like Gershkovits's release.
- Readiness to Resolve: Putin reiterates that Russia is ready to solve the issue, but it requires reciprocal steps and a calm, responsible approach from special services.