Here's a breakdown of the key topics and points discussed in the interview between Alex Cooper and Kim Kardashian:
Introduction and Early Career
- Kim Kardashian's Visit to Call Her Daddy: Kim expresses her excitement to finally be on the podcast, noting she's been highly requested since the show's inception.
- Public Scrutiny in Early Interviews: Kim reflects on the inappropriate and invasive questions asked in early interviews, particularly regarding physical appearance and weight, highlighting how societal norms around interviews have changed.
- Sisterly Support in Interviews: Alex asks how Kim and Kourtney supported Khloe during these difficult interview moments. Kim admits they were unaware and perhaps should have defended Khloe more publicly, but emphasizes their inexperience with early interviews.
"Breaking the Internet" Moments
- The Paper Magazine Cover: Kim identifies the Paper Magazine cover, which coined the phrase "break the internet," as a favorite moment.
- The Iconic "Glass on the Butt" Photo: Kim details the technical aspects of the Paper Magazine shoot, explaining the use of padding. She also shares a humorous anecdote about her mother's reaction to the shoot's outcome.
- Losing the Diamond Earring in Bora Bora: Kim recounts the incident, highlighting that the earrings were uninsured at the time, making their recovery by Kylie even more significant. She also jokes about Kourtney's reaction.
- X-raying Her Butt on KUWTK: Kim recalls the Season 6 episode where they x-rayed her butt to prove its authenticity, acknowledging it was a wild concept at the time.
- Selfies on the Way to Khloe's Jail Drop-off: This iconic moment is revisited, with Kim confirming she still has all the photos.
Personal Habits and Collecting
- Saving Everything: Kim reveals her habit of saving all photos, videos, and information, organizing them on hard drives for her children. This leads to her being called a "receipts queen."
- The Hermes Birkin Bag Saga: Kim shares a lengthy and humorous story about a coveted Hermes Birkin bag, detailing a family dispute involving her mom and Kylie over who would receive it. This highlights the close but sometimes competitive relationships within the family.
Navigating Fame and Public Perception
- The Kardashian Curse: Kim strongly refutes the "Kardashian curse," emphasizing that it unfairly places blame on women and ignores the autonomy and accountability of men. She points to positive outcomes in relationships, like championships won by partners.
- Rumors and Annoyances: Kim discusses how rumors used to bother her more, especially those linking her to people she'd never met, but now she's largely desensitized. She also addresses the rumor about her Met Gala mask being due to a facelift, denying it and stating it was purely for fashion.
Relationship History and Dating
- Tom Brady Dating Rumors: Kim declines to answer a question about her connection with Tom Brady, prompting an unexpected call from Kylie Jenner.
- Travis Barker Past Hookup Rumor: Kim clarifies she has never hooked up with Travis Barker, explaining their friendship stemmed from him dating Paris Hilton and their families' proximity.
- Marriage to Damon Thomas: Kim confirms she got married in Vegas on Molly in her early twenties and didn't tell her parents, with Kourtney finding out through public records.
- Post Malone Rumors: Kim dismisses rumors of hooking up with Post Malone, attributing it to a Skims campaign and praising his character.
- Current Single Status: Kim states she is currently single, content, and not actively looking, prioritizing her children. She also mentions that her longest single period has been now.
- Dating Intimidation: Kim believes her "person" wouldn't be intimidated by her fame and that she is approachable.
- What She Looks For in a Partner: Kim desires someone confident but not overly nervous, emphasizing being a good team player, supportive, and communicating well.
- Past Cheating Experiences: Kim shares that she has been cheated on, with one instance being revealed by the partner long after the fact. She admits to calling the person her partner cheated with in her twenties but has since moved past that confrontational approach.
- The Final Straw in Relationships: Kim describes her "final straw" in difficult relationships as situations where her loved ones were spoken poorly of, not feeling safe emotionally or financially, and a lack of stability (e.g., cars being given away).
- Impact of Public Marriage and Vocal Ex: Kim acknowledges that her public marriage and vocal ex have made dating challenging, as new partners may be hesitant to get involved due to potential backlash.
- Comparisons to Kanye's New Partners: Kim feels for new partners of Kanye, believing it's unfair for them to be constantly compared to her.
- Best Quality as a Partner: Kim identifies being a good team player, communicating well, and being highly supportive as her best qualities.
- Area for Improvement in Relationships: Kim acknowledges it might be difficult to mesh her life with someone else's, especially with blended families, and is unsure if she has the energy or has met the right person for that.
- Past vs. Present Attraction: Kim is no longer attracted to "flashy" things, preferring simplicity and style in a partner.
- Future Marriage Plans: Kim would consider getting married again if she found the right person, but the type of wedding would depend on the partner.
- Dream Wedding Dress Designer: Kim's dream wedding dress designer is the late Manfred Thierry Mugler.
Co-Parenting and Family Dynamics
- Co-Parenting with Kanye West: Kim describes co-parenting with Kanye as "not easy" and involving "waves and phases." She emphasizes her full-time role in raising the children and protecting them while wanting a healthy relationship with their father.
- Kanye's Absence and Misconceptions: Kim clarifies that she never denies Kanye seeing the children and that the narrative of her keeping them is false. She explains that Kanye often doesn't ask to see them or lives in different countries, and the children are accustomed to his travel schedule.
- Public Outcry Over Kanye's Comments: Kim explains her silence on Kanye's negative public comments about her as a mother, stating she doesn't want her children to hear negativity from her and that she never heard her parents speak badly about each other.
- Hardest Moments to Stay Silent: Kim finds it most difficult to stay silent when comments are made about her children, her mother, or when there's a false narrative about their family dynamic.
- Children's Awareness of the Situation: Kim acknowledges her children see and hear things and that North has advised her to move on and find a boyfriend, indicating the children are aware of the situation.
- Children's Names and Naming Process: Kim reveals Kanye wanted to name North "Noriega" or "Donda," but she preferred her children to have their own unique names.
- Favorite Baby Daddy: Kim states she is closest with Tristan and also very close with Scott.
- Sisterly Relationships: Kim clarifies that she and Kourtney are extremely close, despite public perception of their fights, emphasizing that sisters resolve conflicts quickly. She also believes Khloe and Kourtney are the closest sisters.
- Kris Jenner and Corey Gamble: Kim confirms Kris and Corey are still together and dismisses rumors of their breakup.
- Sisterly Trust for Set-ups: Kim trusts Khloe the most to set her up with a guy, but also feels Kendall has a good network and would make good choices.
The "Keeping Up With The Kardashians" Journey
- Initial Motivation for the Show: Kim admits she initially wanted to be famous and didn't have a long-term plan, seeing the show as a fun opportunity.
- Family Impact of the Show: Kim believes the show brought the family closer together, despite the challenges of living their lives on camera.
- Hardest Publicly Faced Challenge: Kim points to the transition of her step-parent (Caitlyn Jenner) as the hardest thing the family went through publicly due to the complexities and lack of understanding during the transition.
- Impact of Her Father's Death and First Divorce: Kim discusses the profound loss of her father at a young age and how it impacted her, though she was young and focused on her dad in his final days. She notes that her father was helping her with her first divorce.
- Influence of Father's Example on Relationships: Kim reflects on how her father's respectful relationship with her mother set a high standard for how women should be treated, making her question her own past relationship choices.
Business Ventures and Career Aspirations
- Passion-Driven Success: Kim believes success comes from passion and love for a project, not just financial gain.
- Skims Launch and Pivot: Kim explains the initial name "Kimono" was confusing and led to backlash. She emphasizes the importance of taking accountability and pivoting quickly, which led to the successful brand name "Skims."
- Skims Involvement: Kim remains highly involved in Skims, overseeing creative direction, fabric selection, color palettes, and campaign talent.
- Nike Skims Collaboration: Kim is excited about the launch of "Nike Skims," a new brand created with Nike, which will offer continuous sports apparel.
- Law Career and Passing the Bar: Kim reveals she recently took the bar exam after four months of dedicated study and is awaiting results in November. She hopes to work on cases to help those who can't afford legal fees and wants to reunite families.
- Motivation for Law: Kim's motivation for pursuing law stems from witnessing the impact of legal issues on families and her own experience feeling out of place in a White House clemency meeting due to lack of legal jargon understanding.
- Unconventional Legal Education: Kim explains her non-traditional path to law, bypassing a bachelor's degree to enter a four-year program and working in a firm simultaneously.
- Acting Career: Kim discusses her role in "American Horror Story" and her new series "All's Fair" with Ryan Murphy, highlighting the demanding schedule and her dedication to preparation.
- Skims Beauty Launch: Kim is re-launching her beauty line under Skims, bringing back popular products like lip liners and expanding into fragrances and makeup.
- Balancing Multiple Roles: Kim attributes her ability to manage her many roles (mom, businesswoman, law student, actress) to excellent time management and being a quick responder.
Game Segment: Confess or Text
- Glam Budget: Kim estimates spending around a million dollars annually on glam, but notes that show and work expenses are often covered.
- "Should Have Been Canceled" Moment: Kim identifies a photoshoot with a 16-year-old Justin Bieber as a potentially awkward concept in retrospect, though nothing inappropriate occurred.
- Text to Kourtney: Kim sends a prank text to Kourtney claiming she said things about her on the podcast, which Kourtney responds to with mild amusement.
- Fuck, Marry, Kill (Exes Edition): Kim opts to text Kylie instead of answering this question.
- Text to Kylie: Kim sends Kylie a fake text about their mom "doing shady things with money," leading to Kylie calling.
- Tom Brady Question: Kim declines to answer the seriousness of her connection with Tom Brady, as Kylie calls her during the question.
- Kourtney and Travis's Relationship: Kim confirms Kourtney and Travis are still together.
- Hooking Up with Travis Barker: Kim denies ever hooking up with Travis Barker.
- Marriage on Molly: Kim confirms marrying on Molly as a past decision.
- Post Malone Rumors: Kim dismisses Post Malone rumors.
- Craziest Place Had Sex: Kim reveals a movie theater.
- Text Options: Kim receives several text options to send to sisters and friends, including one to Kendall about dating Tom Brady and one to Scott about a younger man.
- TMZ Prank Text to Kris Jenner: Kim and Alex prank Kris Jenner with a fake TMZ leak, causing Kris to panic before they reveal it's a joke.
Personal Reflections and Future
- Embracing New Challenges: Kim enjoys trying new things and challenging herself, finding fulfillment in the process.
- Sleep Habits: Kim can sleep anywhere, anytime, and utilizes quick naps to manage her busy schedule.
- Future of Skims: Skims Beauty is the next major launch, with Kim aiming to bring back what works from her previous beauty ventures.
- Mom as Best Friend: Kim's best quality as a mom is her close relationship with her children, being their confidante and "house mom."
- Children's Experimentation and Rebellion: Kim grants her children creative freedom, including hair color, but uses learning moments to guide them, especially regarding fashion choices that become public. She emphasizes giving grace to single mothers.
- Nurturing Creativity: Kim actively nurtures her children's creative sides, like North's interest in music and makeup.
- Business Acumen and Pivot: Kim's business success is attributed to her passion and ability to pivot quickly when necessary, taking accountability.
- Future of Dating: Kim is open to finding love again but prioritizes mental and emotional stimulation over flashiness. She's looking for lawyers or scientists rather than rappers or athletes.
- Wedding Dress Dreams: Kim still envisions wearing the unfinished Thierry Mugler wedding dress she was designing.
- The Kardashian Curse Rejection: Kim strongly advocates for individual accountability, rejecting the notion that women are a "curse" to men's success.
- Future of the Kardashian Show: Teasers for the next season include Rob's potential appearance and Caitlyn Jenner's return.
- Kim as an Open Book: Kim expresses her willingness to share and be open, despite her protective nature towards her children.